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[ded_maxim]

Фофудьеносцы в вооруженных силах США:

An army private from Fort Bragg contacted me when he was going through basic training. When he signed up, they asked him his religious denomination and he said Christian, but they identified him as not being fundamentalist enough Christian, and they punished him by putting 'none' on his dog tags. When he got to Afghanistan, the commander said that the blessings of the Lord Jesus would not be on the unit unless everyone were evangelical, and since he would not convert, this 20-year-old private would be responsible for the deaths and injuries the unit might suffer.

In another case, we caught a three-star general who ordered his staff to put together a PowerPoint presentation demonstrating the direct parallel between the Book of Revelation and all of our combat movements in Tikrit, Mosul, Fallujah, Sadr City and farther east in Afghanistan. We were able to stop it after it got to 2,500 troops.

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Comments

[boriskogan.livejournal.com]

Are you sure you're responging to my posting? Please, point out the exact place where I said anything about latte-sipping, America-hating Jews.

I have no idea what sounds far-fetched to you and what doesn't, but I can tell you this is obvious bullshit based on my 7 years of service. I'm not going to argue with you about the political and religious climate in the armed forces, primarily because you're not qualified in this matter.

[ded-maxim.livejournal.com]

I wrote the thing about latte-sipping, America-hating Jews sarcastically. Seeing as how you've decided to read things into my post that weren't there (such as sweeping generalizations about the whole armed forces), I responded in kind.

Also, what looks like "obvious bullshit" to you may not look so to others who are "not qualified in this matter". So if you say so, I am inclined to trust you primarily because of your experience, even though you may have just been lucky (I mean, I hope nobody referred to you as a Christ killer (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/06/national/main919947.shtml)), even though it takes some effort not to question the objectivity of someone who insults his opponent's intelligence instead of arguing with, you know, facts.

[boriskogan.livejournal.com]

Let's set the record straight-I never read anything into your post that wasn't there. The sweeping generalization is basically implied by the source material-the only kind of atmosphere where this kind of unprofessional behavior could survive on such a high level is one of institutional Bible-thumping bigotry and intolerance. I missed your sarcasm, but do not take kindly to being compared to bigots and conspirologists like Emdrone.

I won't comment on Mikey Weinstein's suit, not having ever been in the USAFA and not being acquainted with anyone familiar with the facts of the case. I will say that while I've engaged in a good bit of shit-talking with peers, some of which was racial or religious in nature, it was all in good fun, and nobody took it seriously. I've never seen anything like what's described in the source, with superiors pushing their religion on subordinates.

[boriskogan.livejournal.com]

I'm talking of course about Weinstein's 2005 lawsuit against the USAFA, specifically.

In general, I suspect his motives-just a vibe the guy puts out.

[ded-maxim.livejournal.com]

Do you question his motives or do you suspect him of twisting the facts? Those are different things after all.

[boriskogan.livejournal.com]

Both.

[ded-maxim.livejournal.com]

I missed your sarcasm, but do not take kindly to being compared to bigots and conspirologists like Emdrone.

I am sorry if I offended you. For my part, I do not take kindly to accusations of prejudice against the armed forces. There's no need to get into that whole "you don't support the troops" mode here, it's not Fox News.

[boriskogan.livejournal.com]

I leveled no such accusation at you. Indyweek, however, is a different story. I'm not offended by anything you've said at all, but there's a lot of stupidity and ignorance coming our way from the media, and it gets deeper the further left you look, all the way to Ted Rall. Unfortunately, instead of actually being independent, most "independent" newspapers like the Independent Weekly generally follow the same ideology, which this article is a prime exhibit of.

Since you mentioned it, Fox News is better, but not by far-it's the same yuppie douchebags, just with a different corporate ideology. They're still life-long representatives of the chattering classes.

[ded-maxim.livejournal.com]

Hey, here I agree with you almost 100%. Except for that "Fox News is better" thing -- they are neither better nor worse than anyone else. As far as Indyweek goes, it is quite annoying, what with their teary-eyed articles about the fate of a local Greenpeace commune etc. And don't even get me started on things like the Daily Kos.

[boriskogan.livejournal.com]

In my mind, douchebags propagandizing for me are better than douchebags propagandizing against me.